It doesn't make sense, does it. Many things in the universe don't, but mankind's greed follows simple rules. What I had to amend in my understanding is that such greed is shared by others across the galaxy.
[ It is what it is... ]
Do you think it is worth asking me?
[ With the tone of arrogance because of course it's worth asking him, but it's also gauging HUBRIS. ]
I think that would also depend on what you'd qualify as greed. I think it's human nature for people to want things, but it's the lengths they'll go to and how they treat other people that determine the amount of greed. Or maybe that's just me.
[ anyway he hears that tone. he has heard this tone from a few people in his life. but he shrugs. ]
I wouldn't bother asking you if I didn't think it was worth it. I'm not going to say that I'll agree, or even that I'll fully understand, but at least hearing the opinion is more information than I had to start with.
It comes at the expense of others, not only of their own.
[ At least his tone isn't because you're in child body. He's pensive, thinking. ]
I don't think it's the company, but they make a good shield. Their technology, their structure, their ship—it lays foundation. For now, I believe there's a force... Or these waves.
But I cannot connect the deliberateness of this series of events and my brother's disappearance to them. It explains how. Why is missing...
If there's nothing to blame but natural occurrences, where does that leave us? How am I to punish and enact judgment?
Yeah. That's exactly it. And some of the most greedy people don't even bother putting themselves in a position where things may be at their own expense. [ sound more bitter, truly. but sometimes a dude really just uses you for experimentation so he didn't have to fuck with his own genes until he was done meddling with yours to make the perfect formula.
but he sees....this does seem to make sense. ]
The last time we talked, you knew I was looking into the nanites as a possible source. I've changed tracks since then. I do believe the nanites have some capabilities that are extending a certain control over us, but not to the extent I originally thought. I thought that maybe there was some kind of a ghost or a virus running its course through this ship, but I'm not fully confident in that either. But the waves...are something we experience each week. It causes those effects, but we don't know what other side effects could cling to this ship.
[ he's sort of just squinting at the rest though. ]
Wait are you trying to say that all of this--[ a gesture to the eudora ]--caused your brother's disappearance? [ better question if that's true how the FUCK did you get here, sir. ] I guess it then becomes a different question. Who are you trying to enact judgment upon and punish? And what for?
[ I didn't prepare memories for Knives for obvious reasons, but you can have this short clip. All around are your people, dying in their tainted biomes... You can hear their painful screams as they run to the very last of their life force—all for finite human survival. You know what happens... They'll turn into ashen statues, locked on a horrifying expression to display their last moments as an excruciatingly painful death. It isn't beautiful. It's far from it. Your sisters don't receive a funeral or a burial. They're left to rot in their dirty sphere as unwanted garbage.
... And it angers you. The anger obscures the fear, the hatred masks the anxiety, you can't let this happen to you. You can't let this happen to Vash. Unlike your sisters who are dependent on their biomes, you're different. You can change this world.
He continues on because he doesn't care if people know about his racism. ]
I had hoped there would be results, but none is just the same as any. [ He's a nanite hater. ] ] The waves are a nebulous entity, a nuisance with a wide influence.
All of your investigations and discoveries had left me to wonder if the end to the old crew's mystery will explain his disappearance. [ It isn't complex, in the end the answer is that he doesn't know... Knives made a logical leap. WHO TO PUNISH? ] Whatever is behind all of this would be full of blame. If my brother is safe somewhere, I was still heavily inconvenienced in my search.
[ you know the worst part is he can see both points here even if knives truly is just racist against humans. but look. humans can suck really bad? some humans really, truly just...are bad, and given everything shoma's been up against his whole life (between human experimentation and joining a cult and murders and everything in between), he's not going to be the one to point out that this is maybe an extreme reaction.
also, he would very much like to not say the wrong thing and get stabbed. ]
Our circumstances are different, but I suppose I do. [ is what he says first, because we are just going to skirt around that and focus on the rest. ] The waves have more of an influence not only on us, but on you, and we don't know how far it stretches.
[ three days from now he will also realize it stretches toward the dead. ]
I do think that at least solving what happened to the old crew will give us more answers to a lot of things, including why we're here and where the old crew went. [ it's a measured sort of tone, because maybe let's be less stabby for a sec. ] But if there isn't a person or an entity you can punish, what will you do after that? Will it still be important if your brother's safe?
[ Listen... Knives is very dramatic and it was an overreaction, but what are twins as a theme if they weren't both extremes with a heavy list of cons and contradictions. He doesn't believe that Shoma truly understands... He even confirms that.
Not that Knives being understood would console him. It wouldn't change anything because he's incorrigible. ]
We are all the same to these waves. [ Which he doesn't like? That question is a strange one. ] My brother's safety is more important.
[ i don't want to talk about twins i have too many and they're all bad. and it's fine. as long as knives is willing to talk, shoma does not mind much. ]
I asked early on about blocking them, but the answer seemed to be that it was impossible given how many of them there are. [ he tilts his head. ] That's what I'm saying. If your brother's perfectly safe, you don't necessarily need to go and find whoever or whatever to punish them, do you?
From what I've read, that is currently the limit of galactic innovation. There are many recorded, but still many more abound. [ Plentiful like the lands of Canaan, etc. ] If there's a source, there's a threat. You think it's better to leave that to fester and cultivate?
And with more out there that means the limit can still be pushed. Right, I get that. [ considering pause... ] I can't say one way or another without knowing the source and getting a sense of the motivation behind it. While I would usually agree that yes, stopping the source is priority, the connection is the key.
It's obtaining both of those that then becomes the next obstacle. I don't think there's a reasonable justification, but I do think it would be more beneficial to finding out what the source is and how much of the source is changing and growing and what it could become.
[ he does not say this seems incredibly short-sighted. ]
Well...before we even start considering that we need a better idea of what the source could be. Right now we have ideas, but nothing...[ ugh. give him a moment to think. ] Callisto, do you remember if there was anything off about the ship before we even got here?
[ there are all sorts of logs and videos out there now but also this is week three and also he's curious what the guy will say. ]
[ he thinks leaving it for study is short-sighted, too. the opposing positions... ]
... It was odd that most of the ship was under maintenance. I haven't been on one in over a century, but I believe it was too many for flight clearance.
[ us really still here you are always free to skedaddle and start anew ]
[ good to know callisto is old as balls. but anyway... ]
Then someone or something really wanted us out here and cut off from everyone for a reason. [ not great. ] Guess that'll be a start in my next search. Thanks.
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It doesn't make sense, does it. Many things in the universe don't, but mankind's greed follows simple rules. What I had to amend in my understanding is that such greed is shared by others across the galaxy.
[ It is what it is... ]
Do you think it is worth asking me?
[ With the tone of arrogance because of course it's worth asking him, but it's also gauging HUBRIS. ]
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[ anyway he hears that tone. he has heard this tone from a few people in his life. but he shrugs. ]
I wouldn't bother asking you if I didn't think it was worth it. I'm not going to say that I'll agree, or even that I'll fully understand, but at least hearing the opinion is more information than I had to start with.
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[ At least his tone isn't because you're in child body. He's pensive, thinking. ]
I don't think it's the company, but they make a good shield. Their technology, their structure, their ship—it lays foundation. For now, I believe there's a force... Or these waves.
But I cannot connect the deliberateness of this series of events and my brother's disappearance to them. It explains how. Why is missing...
If there's nothing to blame but natural occurrences, where does that leave us? How am I to punish and enact judgment?
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Yeah. That's exactly it. And some of the most greedy people don't even bother putting themselves in a position where things may be at their own expense. [ sound more bitter, truly. but sometimes a dude really just uses you for experimentation so he didn't have to fuck with his own genes until he was done meddling with yours to make the perfect formula.
but he sees....this does seem to make sense. ]
The last time we talked, you knew I was looking into the nanites as a possible source. I've changed tracks since then. I do believe the nanites have some capabilities that are extending a certain control over us, but not to the extent I originally thought. I thought that maybe there was some kind of a ghost or a virus running its course through this ship, but I'm not fully confident in that either. But the waves...are something we experience each week. It causes those effects, but we don't know what other side effects could cling to this ship.
[ he's sort of just squinting at the rest though. ]
Wait are you trying to say that all of this--[ a gesture to the eudora ]--caused your brother's disappearance? [ better question if that's true how the FUCK did you get here, sir. ] I guess it then becomes a different question. Who are you trying to enact judgment upon and punish? And what for?
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[ I didn't prepare memories for Knives for obvious reasons, but you can have this short clip. All around are your people, dying in their tainted biomes... You can hear their painful screams as they run to the very last of their life force—all for finite human survival. You know what happens... They'll turn into ashen statues, locked on a horrifying expression to display their last moments as an excruciatingly painful death. It isn't beautiful. It's far from it. Your sisters don't receive a funeral or a burial. They're left to rot in their dirty sphere as unwanted garbage.
... And it angers you. The anger obscures the fear, the hatred masks the anxiety, you can't let this happen to you. You can't let this happen to Vash. Unlike your sisters who are dependent on their biomes, you're different. You can change this world.
He continues on because he doesn't care if people know about his racism. ]
I had hoped there would be results, but none is just the same as any. [ He's a nanite hater. ] ] The waves are a nebulous entity, a nuisance with a wide influence.
All of your investigations and discoveries had left me to wonder if the end to the old crew's mystery will explain his disappearance. [ It isn't complex, in the end the answer is that he doesn't know... Knives made a logical leap. WHO TO PUNISH? ] Whatever is behind all of this would be full of blame. If my brother is safe somewhere, I was still heavily inconvenienced in my search.
Working under a "corporation" is awful.
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also, he would very much like to not say the wrong thing and get stabbed. ]
Our circumstances are different, but I suppose I do. [ is what he says first, because we are just going to skirt around that and focus on the rest. ] The waves have more of an influence not only on us, but on you, and we don't know how far it stretches.
[ three days from now he will also realize it stretches toward the dead. ]
I do think that at least solving what happened to the old crew will give us more answers to a lot of things, including why we're here and where the old crew went. [ it's a measured sort of tone, because maybe let's be less stabby for a sec. ] But if there isn't a person or an entity you can punish, what will you do after that? Will it still be important if your brother's safe?
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Not that Knives being understood would console him. It wouldn't change anything because he's incorrigible. ]
We are all the same to these waves. [ Which he doesn't like? That question is a strange one. ] My brother's safety is more important.
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I asked early on about blocking them, but the answer seemed to be that it was impossible given how many of them there are. [ he tilts his head. ] That's what I'm saying. If your brother's perfectly safe, you don't necessarily need to go and find whoever or whatever to punish them, do you?
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From what I've read, that is currently the limit of galactic innovation. There are many recorded, but still many more abound. [ Plentiful like the lands of Canaan, etc. ] If there's a source, there's a threat. You think it's better to leave that to fester and cultivate?
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[ Ominous, but in an optimistic way? ]
Then you believe there to be reasonable justification for all that has befell on the Eudora?
[ Honestly, Knives cares most about Vash, but he understand where people put their feelings. He used to care like them, too. ]
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It's obtaining both of those that then becomes the next obstacle. I don't think there's a reasonable justification, but I do think it would be more beneficial to finding out what the source is and how much of the source is changing and growing and what it could become.
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To capitalize?
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[ just let god smite it kind of deal ]
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[ Just destroy it all? ]
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Well...before we even start considering that we need a better idea of what the source could be. Right now we have ideas, but nothing...[ ugh. give him a moment to think. ] Callisto, do you remember if there was anything off about the ship before we even got here?
[ there are all sorts of logs and videos out there now but also this is week three and also he's curious what the guy will say. ]
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... It was odd that most of the ship was under maintenance. I haven't been on one in over a century, but I believe it was too many for flight clearance.
[ us really still here you are always free to skedaddle and start anew ]
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Then someone or something really wanted us out here and cut off from everyone for a reason. [ not great. ] Guess that'll be a start in my next search. Thanks.
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[ You may leave, small one. ]